tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7186734097245460670.post2667897741302753568..comments2024-03-08T23:57:17.923+02:00Comments on Achas L'Maala V'Sheva L'Matta: Judging the Judges – Part 2: Kangaroo Courts and the Boomerang EffectYechezkel Hirshmanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18417734718880643428noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7186734097245460670.post-63557193140215119172017-06-23T09:06:42.531+03:002017-06-23T09:06:42.531+03:00A person who has already been destroyed cannot be ...A person who has already been destroyed cannot be destroyed by nekama.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7186734097245460670.post-11141552174713745432017-06-09T09:16:34.374+03:002017-06-09T09:16:34.374+03:00James, btw, is rabbi James Kennard of Melb - princ...James, btw, is rabbi James Kennard of Melb - principal of Mount Scopus Collge. He often publicly states brave and even controversial opinions to the Australian community<br /><br />However he seems to have remained conspicuously silent about one of his "Orthodox" rabbinical colleagues who is "importing" an openly gay "rabbi" to speak in his Shul.<br /><br />I was and still am hoping that as a principled person, his voice will be heard loud and clear about the Torah's views on Mishkav Zachar.<br />But I am now hearing that the school he heads - a so-called Orthodox school will be allowing this homosexual fraud rabbi to address students.<br /><br />I hope it's not true. <br /><br />But in any case Melbourne's orthodox Jewry is waiting for your strongest condemnation of this propagation of Toeva<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7186734097245460670.post-6332906950158781402017-06-09T08:24:15.787+03:002017-06-09T08:24:15.787+03:00James, I have lived in Melbourne for the past 6 ye...James, I have lived in Melbourne for the past 6 years and have closely followed these horrible cases.<br /><br />It seems quite clear that Manny Waks and Dassi are making a 'career' of their past abuse - money and fame.<br /><br />But that doesn't bother me too much. Maybe they deserve that much benefit for their pain.<br /><br />However the way Waks is pursuing and hounding Yeshiva with the obvious aim of destroying it totally, is despicable.<br /><br />I am not sure if Dassi is planning the same for Adass, I sure hope not.<br /><br />The tzad hashaveh between then is<br />1) their parents treated them horribly - and they should have faced charges of child abuse,<br />2) Both families had ALL their children educated by these schools- WITHOUT A PENNY TUITION PAID ON THEIR BEHALF.<br /><br />Has anyone heard MN or DE ever say a thank you ? Not that I know of.<br /><br />Henry the Thirdnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7186734097245460670.post-79165065936503570502017-06-08T10:48:13.310+03:002017-06-08T10:48:13.310+03:00I can only assume that the author of this blog, Mr...I can only assume that the author of this blog, Mr Hirshman, has no idea of the devastating consequences of child sexual abuse. That is the only explanation for how he can dismiss the catastrophic trauma of the victims, and how he can dare to equate their desire for justice with the evil that was done to them.<br /><br />He might also be unaware of the unimaginable scale of the hillul hashem that this denial of justice, and the fact that there are actually "frum" people who support such a denial, is causing.<br /><br />On the other hand, there is no possible explanation as to how a supposedly "frum" blog like this can justify such l'shon hara and r'chilus. Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03071691811260472863noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7186734097245460670.post-18433623601378018852017-06-08T09:34:49.042+03:002017-06-08T09:34:49.042+03:00SPK can you name or at least give initials of your...SPK can you name or at least give initials of your "many korbanos"?<br /><br />4 divorces??? We only know of 1 Dassi.<br /><br />Who wanted to take her life? Again never heard this before.<br /><br />As to the claim about the Gerrer rebetzen, it is a rumor and maybe it should be investigated. If found to be true there should be consequences.<br /><br />The only people who went OTD was Dassi and her siblings-and obviously little to do with Leifer's disgusting behavior.<br /><br /> How do I know this?<br />Simple. Because her 2 brothers - who never ever had ANYTHING to do with Leifer also went totally OTD.<br /><br />As anyone involved with this sad case, knows about their family and home life, realizes that 99% of their problems stem from home.<br /><br />Leifer herself is an abuse victim (not and excuse - but a fact).<br /><br />The real victims here (in addition to Dassi and her sister - are the Leifer children.<br /><br />They continue to suffer international shame in addition to a home life of total poverty.<br /><br />No way do I wish to be seen as a defender of Leifer, but as this blogmaster posted, there are many aspects to this story which have not be touched in in this age of "Lynch Leifer." achas v'achasnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7186734097245460670.post-18394136215510813202017-06-08T07:55:06.178+03:002017-06-08T07:55:06.178+03:00I am very suprised that you try to defend Leifer w...I am very suprised that you try to defend Leifer with all your incorrect information.<br />Her crimes are much worse than you can imagine.<br />Many korbonas are suffering badly. One girl tried to take her life. 4 are no longer frum, something unheard of in this kehilla. 4 divorces.<br />And she did molest while she was at Gur in Bnei Brak before she came to Australia. The current Gerrer Rebetzin has first hand knowledge.<br />There are many world class bposkim who have given a psak that Leifer has a din of Rodef. She may be requested to face a secular court according to 100's of chareidi poskim.<br />It is people like you who stop innocent kinderlach being protected from monsters.<br /><br />If chollila it would happen to your own children I think you would not be supporting this monster.<br />Shmiel Pinchas Kohn<br />spk2spk2@gmail.com<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com