Perfidy 2023 – Part 2: He Made his Own Lunch

  

Author’s note – This post is the second and final part about the Ron vs. Versano defamation case. Please see Part 1 (HERE) and the Interlude (HERE). All information about the case is factual and based on court records. All the associated commentary is my personal opinion.

 

As I was visiting with the Eldest Oyster and discussing vaccines and name-calling, he proceeded to tell me the story of Ron vs. Versano. You can see it all HERE.

On February 12, 2021, an attorney by the name of Roye Ron posted on his personal Facebook page his support for forced vaccinations. But it wasn’t only that he stated his opinion. He wanted to actively submit a petition to the Israeli Supreme court to mandate his agenda for forced vaccinations. Thus, he was calling on his followers (his Facebook “Friends”?) to join him in this venture.

Evidently, this fellow was not merely speaking his mind. He was calling for action. He is an activist.

Since he is an attorney, we can assume that he wasn’t kidding. Indeed, according to his June 14, 2023 post, he certainly wasn’t kidding. We will see that he was very proud of his position then and remains so today.

To set the context of time, we need to time-travel back to Feb. 2021. What was going on then?

The official vaccine rollout in Eretz Israel was around Dec. 20, 2020. At that stage, there can be no denying that it was totally experimental. The FDA was still in the process of slowly granting EUAs to the various jabs. Johnson & Johnson still hadn’t gotten theirs yet. Also, still no approval for pregnant women. There was no full authorization for anything as of yet.  

See my post from Jan. 17, 2021.

Still, Atty. Roye Ron is already worshipping the god of Covid vaccines. So much so that he is pushing to petition the Israel high court to make it the national religion.

When was this? This is on Feb. 12, 2021, or about a mere 8 weeks after this rollout. Hence, it is undeniable that he is advocating for forced experimental medication on healthy people. And he isn’t even a doctor!

As far as I know, this is exactly what Dr. Mengele and his cohorts did (although some claim that Mengele really was a doctor), and what was ultimately outlawed by the Nuremberg codes. But this fellow is a lawyer, and he is pushing for it! To be forced on Jews! On fellow Israeli Jews!

What kind of response did he get to his Feb. 2021 post?

It says HERE that he received hundreds of views, comments, likes and shares.

All good. Except that not every single one of them was a compliment. At least 13 respondents did not agree with his position or with his activism. They felt that forcing healthy people to take experimental biological agents (medications/pharmaceuticals) without their consent is a breach of international law, the Nuremberg codes, and just plain medical ethics.

And they told him so, straight to his facebook. Exactly where?

In the comments section of the exact same post on his Facebook page where he posted his despotic ideas.

These comments were not all subtle. To make their points, several commenters opined that his policies are akin to Stalin and the Nazis and specifically Dr. Mengele and were fascist. Also, that the writer is a danger to society. You can see all of them HERE.

One of them pointed out that our Atty. Roye Ron, being an attorney, is not a medical practitioner. He has no credentials to preach medical procedures even if these were within the limits of medical ethics, which they are clearly not. Incidentally, Mr. Ron seems to be a very strong proponent of medical cannabis.

So, what did tough lawyer Roye Ron do about this?

Did he debate them and prove why he is not a fascist, not akin to Mengele, and not a danger to society?

No.

Did he just ignore them?

No.

Did he delete their comments from his own Facebook page?

No.

He did what any self-servingrespecting lawyer would do. He tracked them down and sued them for civil Lashon Hara.

Oh, and by the way, did this lawyer first warn the commenters on his Facebook page that, in his opinion, their remarks constitute civil Lashon Hara and they should retract or they will be sued?

There is no indication of it, and Mr. Ron, who is an attorney after all, wants their money, so why should he? (We will see later why he should.)

So he sued them in the Petach Tikva magistrate court and the case came in front of Judge Ariel Bregner.

Plaintiff Roye Ron claimed that he was terribly maligned. There is a raging plandemic pandemic going on, and these vaccines are the only solution. Anyone who opposes him is not only antagonizing him, but is even endangering the world!

To impress how misguided the detractors are, Atty. Roye Ron claimed to be the son of a “Holocaust survivor” and he flaunted this claim to the hilt. How can the son of a holocaust survivor be compared to a Nazi?

The defendants claimed that Mr. Ron made himself into a public figure and he was indeed preaching Nazi and fascist policies. It is his position that poses a danger to society. There is no question about what he wrote in his post. As such, their comments addressed true circumstances. Moreover, he consciously entered very controversial waters. He should have expected a strong backlash from the skeptics. As such, their comments do not constitute slander or defamation. The defenses of “I told the truth” and several of the good faith clauses (Clause 15) applies to this case.

“So,” the Eldest Oyster asked me, “what do you think should be the result in this case?”

I told him that I think this case should be thrown out on its head.

“Why?”

“Look, I’m a chareidi. The Israeli government, the judiciary, and law enforcement have been acting oppressively for as long as they have been in business, and we have always been on the receiving end. With forced autopsies, forced Shabbos desecration, forced mingling, dragging Yeshiva guys to the army, beating us up during legal demonstrations. Not to mention, they also pulled off the “disengagement” and they continue bulldozing Jewish settlements and torturing “confessions” out of hilltoppers. They have acted like Nazis, and we have frequently said so.

“In 2012, a law was proposed in Israel to outlaw calling oppressive people Nazis even when they are maliciously oppressing (see HERE). Actually, this bill was aimed at the chareidim and was just another form of the oppression. At least then, some civil rights group came to the rescue. One group is called the Association for Civil Rights in Israel (ACRI). They put out a statement as follows:

‘Freedom of expression means the right to say difficult things that might be even hurtful. It means the right to give bold and extreme expression to positions, feelings, and thoughts, and also includes the right to make rhetorical use of provocative and harsh images.” They added, “Because of the importance and centrality of the Holocaust, the attempt to dictate when and in what context it can be referenced is very problematic.’

“Apparently, the law was not passed, so it is perfectly legal to call an oppressor who publicly emulates Nazi and fascist policies 'Nazis' and 'Fascists', as long as it’s true.

“Oh, and about his flaunting his “son-of-holocaust-survivor” credential, I think it is deplorable.”

“Why so?” he asked.

“Firstly, I am not impressed with the credentials.

“He claims that his father, who is now 83, is a holocaust survivor. This means his father was born about 1940. [Note - The court record says this is “along with his mother, also 83”. I am assuming that this is a mistake and it really means that the father survived the war with his mother – i.e., the father’s mother who would be Roye’s grandmother – who lost most of her family, and I gather her husband (Roye’s grandfather), in the Shoah. That woman would be way more than 83.]

“The Holocaust ended in May of 1945. As such, any person who was born before May of 1945, specifically, in lands that were dominated by the Nazis, and who was still alive after May of 1945 can call themselves a Holocaust survivor. Technically, this is even if their family escaped to Switzerland or even to the free West in 1938 and they didn’t actually endure the Holocaust. Likewise, I suppose, many Russian Jews who spent the war on the Russian side of the fence also can call themselves Holocaust survivors.

“This fellow’s father was born in 1940 and survived the war with his mother (Roye’s grandmother). I must assume that in 1940 they were somewhere out of harm’s way because, if not, it would be almost impossible for a mother with a newborn to survive. As such, the term Holocaust survivor rings hollow to me even if it’s technically true.

"Roye’s father is definitely not a concentration camp survivor and wasn’t anywhere near Auschwitz. My father, LOY”T, was born in 1929 and did go through Auschwitz. He is not just a Holocaust survivor but a death and labor camp survivor. Incidentally, he says that he has no idea if Mengele was involved in the selections he went through, but he went through them.

“But, secondly, what bothers me a lot more about his flaunting his 'son-of-Holocaust-survivor' credential is that, if he really is, he should know better. And so should the judge. Does he really mean to tell us that because his father is a holocaust survivor that he has a license to defy the Nuremberg laws and incite forced experimental medications on healthy people???

“Incidentally, did his proposed petition to the Begatz include mandating informed consent? No mention of it in his June 14 post. This is besides the fact that any kind of mandate violates consent.

“On top of all this, his position about vaccinations is exceedingly tenuous.

“Aside from the fact that at that time it was purely experimental, we also knew then that there is absolutely no product liability to the manufacturers, or to anybody, for adverse effects, injury, or death. And adverse effects were showing up from the start.

“It was soon discovered that this vaccine causes heart problems including myocarditis, pericarditis, and cardiac arrest, blood clotting, turbo-cancers, women’s health issues and miscarriages, strokes, aneurisms, and neurological disorders. In other words, it ain’t safe. (See HERE for testimonies. If you like to see people drop dead in front of your eyes, see HERE and HERE. Viewer discretion strongly advised.)

“We know a lot more now. We know this ‘vaccine’ was never really effective. Not only does it require constant ‘boosters’ which means it loses any efficacy it might have had inside of six months, but we all know people who are ‘fully’ vaccinated who still got Covid. Also, Pfizer admitted that they never tested their ‘vaccine’ for stopping transmission.

“We know that the sinister Prime Minister “Haman” Netanyahu, צורר היהודים, sold the Jewish nation to Achashverosh Bourla for 10,000 shekels to be Pfizer’s Guinea pigs without anyone’s consent להזריק להשמיד להרוג ולתעד את כל הישראלים מנער ועד זקן, טף ונשים, בבת אחד. He says so in public right HERE.

“We also now know that the Israel Ministry of Health knew all about the adverse effects the Pfizer vaccine, including some that were not on Pfizer's list, and they covered it all up. (See HERE)

“So, this 'vaccne' was never safe, never effective, and owing to preexisting remedies such as Vitamin C and D, zinc, hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, it was never necessary.

“This trial lasted until May of 2023 and those of us who are still around are much wiser now, so it’s obvious that the case should be tossed out. Was it??”

 

The eldest Oyster looked at me,

      But never a word he said:

The eldest Oyster winked his eye,

      And shook his heavy head —

Meaning to say, the judge ignored

      The defenses that were pled.

 

Sure enough, Judge Ariel Bregner was exceedingly sympathetic to Atty. Roye Ron’s noble cause. So much so that he was able to convict 9 out of 13 detractors and force them to pay compensation. Not only compensation but he also threw in a collective NIS 16,000 punitive award to the “Medinah”.

Judge Bregner wrote “I think that comparing any person in Israel to the Nazi Mengele is the epitome of Lashon Hara”. And he made similar comments on the other “put-downs”. So, he handed out judgements of between 7,000-18,000 shekels to the nine folks that he convicted for a total of NIS 106,000. To this he added a collective NIS 20,000 for lawyers’ costs and the NIS 16,000 was because the eight defendants who shared a defense lawyer submitted eight separate defense scripts instead of one combined one.

“So,” my friend asked me, “what do you think of this judgement?”

I said that I think it is horrendous.

“Why so?”

“I believe that Atty. Ron’s position does not merely constitute his personal opinion. He is advocating for actively forcing people to do as he believes. Aside from a breach of international law, this is pure incitement by Israeli law. People have a right to protest against oppression and incitement. It is supposed to be one of the most protected rights here in Israel.

“Nazi and Stalin comparisons are always made when one preaches oppression. The Nazis and Fascists are standard models of oppression. When one claims oppression, there is no alternative for comparison except for the standard models. The left-wingers tried to outlaw it, but that ship didn’t sail. The civil rights groups defeated it.

“So, the judge is taking sides in this debate and is actually supporting the oppression and incitement and punishing those protesting against it. This is pure bias and oppression in its own right. I should expect both an attorney like Roye Ron and an Israeli judge to be strong on civil rights. In this case, they are trampling on it. And it’s not like these claims weren’t brought up in the defense scripts. The judge simply ignored them.”

The Eldest Oyster said, “I think something else is bothering you. Something else that the defense claimed and the judge ignored.”

“What makes you think so?”

“It was something you wrote earlier in this post when you were summarizing this case.”

“You mean when I mentioned that these comments were written directly to Atty. Roye Ron’s own Facebook page, that he didn’t delete them, and he allegedly didn’t warn the writers before filing suit?”

“Precisely. What were you implying?”

“The defense claimed that Atty. Roye Ron has 100% shared liability. The judge just ignored that. But it’s a fact.”

“Explain it to your readers.”

Well, there is an unwritten law in Israeli litigation that a damaged party is responsible to do everything reasonable to minimize the damage. It is not stated explicitly in the Tort Ordinance (Pekudat HaNizakim), but it is implied in clause 76. It is specified in Contract Law and is universally applied to Tort law as a “Halacha Pesuka”.

How does this relate to Atty. Roye Ron?

Firstly, all the comments were made to his comments section. This is what a comments section in social media is for! A grown-up confrontational person like Atty. Roye Ron should not expect all the comments that he invites to his page to be compliments.

Every person with a Facebook account is responsible for the comments on his own page. This is to the extent that the same Petach Tikva Magistrate Court (with a different judge) issued a landmark ruling in February 2020 (a year before Roye Ron’s post), that if a commenter writes defamatory remarks against an outside party, and the host of the social networking site maintained it (i.e., did not delete it), then the host account holder can be held liable for damages against the outside party. (See this post.)

Why is this? Obviously, because the host is the master of his account. He holds the keys to what can appear there and what cannot. If it can damage another person, he is responsible to delete it. If the “other person” is him, he is no less responsible for deleting it. After all, there is a Halacha pesuka to minimize damage to one’s self!

Add to this the rule we quoted from US defamation law in the previous post that when the defamation is in second person voice – i.e., you are a Fascist Nazi – this is not defamation. We call it הוכח תוכיח את עמיתך.

Thus, as the defense claimed, Roye Ron is 100% co-responsible for all damages to him. He could have simply deleted all the comments immediately. He facilitated the damage himself.

He made his own lunch!

So, why didn’t he just delete the comments? And why didn’t he warn them to retract before filing suit?

It must be because he wanted to cry about defamation, he wanted to sue. He wanted to “cancel” his opponents and to pick their pockets.

Clearly, the purpose of the lawsuit was not to get them to delete or retract their comments. This is evident because they were posted on his own Facebook page and he had every opportunity to take them down himself. Note, he eventually did so, because the entire post is now gone.

As such, the money he received cannot be for damages. As I wrote, Mr. Roye Ron cannot claim to be damaged for at least three reasons:

• All the remarks were relational slurs relating to his stated position which he stated publicly. His position is undeniable. Those who support him will continue to do so. Those who do not will oppose him because of his viewpoint, not because of the slurs. The slurs do not cause defamation.

• Secondly, it was all in second person said directly to him. It was meant to chasten him not to defame him to others.

• Thirdly, it was on his own Facebook page, for heaven’s sake! He can delete them as soon as they land. If it wasn’t deleted and there was no warning, then it is not being done to protect Roye but to silence the opposition and to obtain money. He obviously chose not to do so only so he can kvetch to a judge and demand sympathy and money.

To summarize, Atty. Roye Ron believes that he is allowed to bully people into taking poisonous vaccines and to incite division and hatred toward those who don’t want to. Yet, when these folks let him know that he is acting like Mengele, he gets very offended and, instead of deleting the comments, he sues them for their money. And, based on his June 14 post, he is so proud of it. Here is what he wrote (translation by Google Translate):

"Mengele was proud of you", "fascist", "terrorist supporter" - that's what vaccine opponents called me personally on Facebook.

I "earned" these defamatory comments following a post I wrote at the height of the Corona period

And in it I called on my friends to join me in submitting a petition to the Supreme Court that would require vaccinations, in order to keep us all healthy, with an emphasis on the adults.

In the defamation lawsuit I filed against them, the court ruled that they must pay me compensation in the amount of 126,000 NIS, and in addition they must pay the state 16,000 NIS, for the awkwardness they took in the legal process.

Reducing derogatory discourse on social networks and in general, starts first of all with education and values. However, it is important that we, the victims, do not remain silent in the face of harsh and insulting statements that damage our good name and our livelihood, we will exhaust our right not to make statements and conduct of this type a part of the agenda, and we will send a clear message that there are red lines for freedom of expression as well.

I personally do not think Atty. Roye Ron is educated about vaccines or has values. and I am not the only one who thinks so (see comment by א. בלב). He did not attempt to educate or engage with anybody to set them straight; only to censor them and sue without warning. Still, he will call himself a “victim” even though there is no reason the “insulting statements” that he chose not to delete should damage his “good name and livelihood”.

As the son of a true Auschwitz Holcaust survivor, my personal feeling is that he should be ashamed of himself. Both for his misguided oppressive activism and for running to a judge to get back at people who justifiably and legally opposed him. I personally think that if Roye Ron was any kind of a mensch he would apologize to all the people he upset with his post and give the money back to those he collected from. In my opinion, it’s treife gelt.

I don’t think Judge Ariel Bregner has anything to be proud of either. His job is to curb the aggressors, not to empower them.

 

It seems a shame,' the Walrus said,

      To play them such a trick,

After we've brought them out so far,

      And made them trot so quick!'

The Carpenter said nothing but

      The butter's spread too thick!'

 

As I took leave of my friend, I told him that I think this case sets a very ugly precedent. Actually, this whole story reminds me about a poem I once read about a Walrus and a Carpenter.

The Eldest Oyster winked his eye and shook his heavy head.

“This is scarcely odd”, is all he finally said.